197. Sleep for High Performers: Jet Lag, Naps, Wearables, and When Tech Helps (or Hurts) | Jade Wu, PhD


We welcome back sleep expert Jade Wu to discuss practical sleep strategies for high performers, especially around travel, naps, and sleep technology. Dr. Wu suggests we may be over-relying on technology for our sleep, making the case for simplicity when it comes to sleep scores, managing jet lag, and even mattresses.
Jade Wu, PhD, DBSM, is a board-certified behavioral sleep medicine psychologist, founder of Thrive Sleep Clinic, and author of Hello Sleep: The Science and Art of Overcoming Insomnia Without Medications. She trained at Cornell, Boston University, and Duke University School of Medicine and specializes in helping high performers build a sustainable, resilient relationship with sleep without medications, gadgets, or rigid optimization.
TOPICS COVERED
Jet lag, circadian rhythms, and how light shapes your body clock
Naps as a performance and recovery tool
Sleep debt, sleep banking, and limits of “catching up”
Wearables, sleep metrics, and avoiding score obsession
Understanding fatigue vs true sleepiness and when to seek help
The future of sleep tech while learning to trust your body
RESOURCES & LINKS MENTIONED
Book: Hello Sleep: The Science and Art of Overcoming Insomnia Without Medications by Jade Wu
Clinic: Thrive Sleep Clinic — thrivesleepclinic.com
Practice: Refining Health & Performance — refininghealthrx.com
Concept: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceptance_and_commitment_therapy)
Concept: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBT-I) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy_for_insomnia)
Concept: Circadian Rhythm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm)
Concept: Social Jet Lag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_jet_lag)
Concept: Chronotypes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronotype)
Concept: Adenosine & Sleep Pressure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine)
Concept: REM Sleep (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_eye_movement_sleep)
Concept: Sleep Efficiency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_efficiency)
Tool: Light Therapy (10,000 lux light boxes) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_therapy)
Concept: Sleep Tracking & Wearables (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actigraphy
Practice: Refining Health & Performance — refininghealthrx.com
GUEST SOCIAL LINKS
Website: drjadewu.com (https://www.drjadewu.com/)
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/drjadewu (https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjadewu/)
Clinic: thrivesleepclinic.com (https://www.thrivesleepclinic.com/)









